at the table as well. >> chris: mr. pratt, i think you would agree the national wave of horror over the slaughter of those 20 small children in newtown last month, do you see any sign that ms. tanden and her allies can change the national conversation and get members of congress to as if the first tough gun controls since 1994? >> we don't think there is much likelihood that the congress is going to move on making gun control laws worse than they are. in fact, already, there are a couple of bills that have been put in, one by representative steve stockman, outside of how often that would remove the gun-free zones that have been so much like a magnet to invite mass murderers into zones where they know nobody else will be able to shoot back. and, that, i think, is where the debate is likely to shift. are we really better off when we say no defense is a good defense? >> chris: i want to put up an ad gun control advocates have start running, against democratic senator -- new senator heidi hidecamp of north dakota after she said some of the president's ideas about gun control are extreme
